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Ukraine, Technology and the Politics of War

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Elliot Ackerman joins When Everything Matters (Коли все має значення), a podcast from the Public Interest Journalism Lab available on NV Podcasts, for a wide-ranging conversation about Ukraine, the politics of war and the future of defense. Published October 23, 2026, the interview brings his experience as a writer and veteran into a discussion of military innovation, private technology and the relationship between service and society.

NV Podcasts • October 23, 2026

Ukraine, Technology and the Politics of War

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Language
English interview; Ukrainian introduction and closing
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English conversation begins around 05:54
Format
Long-form audio interview

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07:46Defense systems built for a different era

Ackerman argues that the United States’ central challenge is not a single missing technology but an acquisition system too slow to keep pace with wartime innovation. He contrasts long procurement cycles with the adaptation Ukraine has been forced to make.

11:29Why military power does not guarantee victory

The conversation turns to war’s political foundations: military capability must serve an attainable political objective. Ackerman draws on Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam and Ukraine to explain why resources alone do not determine an outcome.

23:16Russia’s attacks on civilians

Reflecting on a recent visit to Kyiv, Ackerman explains why he interprets attacks on civilians as signs of strain and desperation in Putin’s regime. This is his assessment of Russia’s strategy, not a prediction that the war is about to end.

27:38Starlink, private power and sovereignty

Questions about Starlink lead to a broader discussion of privately controlled defense technology, artificial intelligence and the power of the state. Ackerman considers what happens when governments depend on capabilities controlled by individual companies.

35:29The challenge of producing at scale

Ackerman examines the gap between sophisticated technology and industrial capacity. His account of visiting a HIMARS production facility illustrates why increasing defense output is not as simple as turning a dial.

43:22What Western militaries can learn from Ukraine

Drawing on his reporting in Ukraine, Ackerman describes the value of Ukrainian battlefield experience and locally developed systems, while cautioning that the next conflict will not necessarily resemble this one.

45:52Veterans, belonging and shared experience

Ackerman compares the isolation some American veterans experience with a society in which war has affected nearly everyone. He expresses hope about Ukrainian veterans’ sense of belonging without minimizing the country’s losses and trauma.

51:13Service, American leadership and self-reliance

The final portion explores why Ackerman joined the Marines, the recurring tension between American engagement and withdrawal, and how domestic political cycles shape policy. The conversation closes on Ukraine’s agency and self-reliance.

A Conversation About Power and Responsibility

Across these subjects, Ackerman returns to the difference between possessing military power and knowing what political purpose it should serve. The discussion connects Ukraine’s wartime adaptation with larger questions about industrial resilience, public responsibility and the people who bear the costs of war.

Original episode: Attacks on civilians born out of the desperation of Putin’s regime | Elliot Ackerman
Podcast: When Everything Matters / Коли все має значення
Producer: Public Interest Journalism Lab
Published: October 23, 2026